On today's episode of Pixel and Sand, we speak with Lesley Simpson-Gray. She's an innovator, psychotherapist, and on the forefront of using technology within sessions, whether it be VR or in digital ecosystem. She's also on the board of directors of ACTO.We speak about how to learn, how to use digital tools, how to listen to your patients and really use their feedback, into using new and exciting ways of doing therapy, as well as really how to be a lifelong learner and really be on the forefront of these new tools to make sessions as engaging and interactive as possible.